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Erling
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Post by Erling » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:47 pm

Heisan, siden whfb ikke akkurat er der jeg ser noe framtid for meg med det første, snuser jeg meg litt rundt i de forskjellige modell spillene. Er jo veldig mange som spiller W/H, sikkert med god grunn! Virker jo veldig bra☺

Har et spørsmål angående figurene. Er det lov å konvertere/bruke andre modeller en privateer så lenge de ligner og har riktig utstyrt/våpen? Virker ikke som det er så mye av dette i W/H?
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Eisenhorn
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Post by Eisenhorn » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:27 pm

kilde http://privateerpressforums.com/showthr ... ve-6-25-15
PPS_Hungerford wrote:Hello all,

I would like to announce that effective immediately, the policy stated below replaces the written conversion policies found in our tournament OP (Steamroller, Hardcore, Masters, and Iron Gauntlet). In future OP document updates, you will see this language added to the rules, but for the time being just ignore the old versions

We hope you find the new conversion policy allows even more creative opportunities for hobbyists than ever before, while protecting players from a battlefield filled with ambiguous models. We also hope that you find the new policy much less complicated. A major change to note is that a conversion no longer requires the majority parts from the original model, but now simply requires majority volume of Privateer Press model parts.

If you are ever unsure about the legality of your conversion, just follow the new Golden Rule. Walk up to your EO, don't explain anything, hold up the model and say "What is this?". If they can answer correctly and aren't just guessing, you're good to go!

Enjoy!

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Model Conversion Policy - Effective June 25th 2015

The following rules apply to the use of converted models in Privateer Press organized play events. These rules are intended solely to ensure that models on the table are represented legally and unambiguously, not to unduly limit a player’s modeling options. An EO can make exceptions to these rules to approve any reasonable conversions.

·Models cannot be converted in such a way that any part of the model represents the intellectual property of any party except Privateer Press, including copyrighted logos, symbols, iconic elements, or other iconography.

·The majority of a converted model's volume must be composed of parts from Privateer Press models. To avoid confusion, the conversion should include iconic elements of the model it is intended to represent.

·A weapon on a model can be converted as long as the conversion represents the same type of weapon (e.g., the model’s axe is still an axe and not a hammer).

·A weapon can be completely swapped for another weapon as long as the new weapon is of the same type (e.g., an axe for an axe, a rifle for a rifle).

·A weapon cannot be removed unless it is replaced by another weapon; a weapon cannot be added unless it is replacing a removed weapon.

·If a conversion uses a Privateer Press upgrade kit for the model it is intended to represent, all parts of the upgrade kit must be clearly visible on the model.

·Miniatures must be mounted on appropriately sized round-lipped bases. Added scenic details can overhang the base’s edge but must not obscure the edge in a way that makes accurate measuring during a game difficult or impossible.

·A player cannot use a model as a proxy (stand-in) for another model.

·Any conversions must be clearly pointed out to the opponent before the game, and the end result of any conversion must be clearly identifiable as the intended model. The golden rule of converting models for tournament play is simply this: If the EO cannot independently, easily, and accurately determine which model your conversion represents, the model is not tournament legal.

​Examples of legal and illegal conversions:
·A player creates an Extreme Behemoth by combining parts from the Extreme Juggernaut and Extreme Destroyer model kits, along with iconic parts from the Behemoth model such as its bombards, its head, and the various missiles on its fists. This model is a legal conversion.

·A player creates an Extreme Behemoth by scratch-building the entire model out of sculpting putty except for the Behemoth bombard parts. Because the majority of this model’s volume is not composed of parts from Privateer Press models, this model is an illegal conversion.

·A player paints his entire army to match the colors of his favorite sports team but does not include any team logos. This army is legal. (Paint schemes are not conversions.)

·A player converts his entire army to resemble his favorite superheroes, including their trademarked logos. This army is illegal.

·A player mounts his Kommander Orsus Zoktavir model on a base featuring a pile of destroyed warjacks that slightly overhangs the model’s base but does not obscure it. He also replaces Zoktavir’s axe, Lola, with the axe from a Trollkin Scout model. While the mighty Butcher will look a bit odd holding the smaller axe in his enormous hands, this model is a legal conversion.

·A player re-poses his Kommander Orsus Zoktavir model, intending to play it as Orsus Zoktavir, the Butcher of Khardov. This is an illegal conversion because it breaks the golden rule of conversions—it will be difficult for EOs and players to know which character the model is intended to represent without help from the player who converted it.

·A player puts an enormous hammer in one of his Stormwall’s voltaic fists. Because a weapon cannot be added to a model unless it replaces a removed weapon, this is an illegal conversion.
Dette er det so gjelder for turnineringer og slikt. Vi spiller på tid Så det er veldig viktig at man kan se på god avstand hva modelen er. Så dette er er absoulte det viktigste
The golden rule of converting models for tournament play is simply this: If the EO cannot independently, easily, and accurately determine which model your conversion represents, the model is not tournament legal.
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Dagowit
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Post by Dagowit » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:53 am

Bemærk dog at reglen om, at man ikke kan bruge dele eller modeller der repræsenterer andres intellektuelle ejendom essentielt gør det umuligt at bruge andet end PPs officielle modeller.

Reelt betyder dette at man kan benytte dele fra andre producenter så længe de er "ugenkendelige" (ingen Space Marine el. lign. ornamentik med andre ord), men det er sikrest at holde det på et minimum (siger manden der har mange ulovlige figurer nu, takket være opdateret konverteringspolitik).

Erling
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Post by Erling » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:19 am

Det er motatt☺
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PetterTB
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Post by PetterTB » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:38 am

Dagowit wrote:Bemærk dog at reglen om, at man ikke kan bruge dele eller modeller der repræsenterer andres intellektuelle ejendom essentielt gør det umuligt at bruge andet end PPs officielle modeller.

Reelt betyder dette at man kan benytte dele fra andre producenter så længe de er "ugenkendelige" (ingen Space Marine el. lign. ornamentik med andre ord), men det er sikrest at holde det på et minimum (siger manden der har mange ulovlige figurer nu, takket være opdateret konverteringspolitik
Det som virkelig hindrer bruk av andre modeller er regelen om at majoriteten av figuren må Være PP figurer. Om man f eks ville bruke generiske skjeletter med AlexIA vil det ryke på det.. Tror du kn bruke mye av andres figurer uten å bryte ip-regelen.

Og til slutt er det opp til turnerings-arrangøren. :)

Leevoth
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Post by Leevoth » Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:50 pm

Lite spm opp mot dette .. såvidt jeg kan se er en Legion Proteus så og si lik som en carnivean/ravagore/scythean i kroppen .. om jeg bruker en sånn kropp og greenstuffer tentakler mm .. vil denne da være godkjent?

Samme gjelder vel Typhoon .. 3 stk carnivean huer på en carnivean kropp? :)

Dagowit
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Post by Dagowit » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:49 pm

Leevoth wrote:Lite spm opp mot dette .. såvidt jeg kan se er en Legion Proteus så og si lik som en carnivean/ravagore/scythean i kroppen .. om jeg bruker en sånn kropp og greenstuffer tentakler mm .. vil denne da være godkjent?

Samme gjelder vel Typhoon .. 3 stk carnivean huer på en carnivean kropp? :)
Se klausulen ovenfor:
"·If a conversion uses a Privateer Press upgrade kit for the model it is intended to represent, all parts of the upgrade kit must be clearly visible on the model."

Så du er velkommen til selv at lave ekstra tentakler med green stuff, men det gør ikke din model til Proteus uden den officielle opgradering.

Typhon er (så vidt jeg husker) en separat model, så det er teoretisk lovligt at bygge den af andre modeller (så længe den er let at genkende). I Typhons tilfælde vil jeg nok argumentere for, at længden på halsene er ganske vigtig for at genkende modellen - men du kunne i princippet modellere dine egne slangehalse.

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